Dual-WAN.com - Your Second Opinion on Business Networking and Internet Applications

@Bevan, I highly appreciate your comments. I didn...

2011-05-11T21:43:44.592-07:00

@Bevan, I highly appreciate your comments. I didn't expect this conversation to get picked up again but I free so grateful that you took the time to write this feedback because finally I know some people out there really share the same thoughts with me.

No, it's not a difficult point to understand. Some people just can't face it.

is it really that hard to understand that there ar...

2009-12-29T07:29:46.285-08:00

is it really that hard to understand that there are two groups of customers, and that there is indeed no conflict?!

I have used pfSense since 1.2 and have nothing but...

2009-12-28T10:06:49.459-08:00

I have used pfSense since 1.2 and have nothing but praise, but Chris, I think you are way out of line. People who goes to try and use pfSense will know its merits and will not even consider peplink. Chris, stay out of this kind of propaganda and discussions and move on based on your products merits - I am a VERY happy pfSense 1.2.3 now, don't get caught up with others...you sound idiotic too - if not more.

I need a router that can conect to multiple isp...

2009-10-26T10:36:55.739-07:00

I need a router that can conect to multiple isp's with lot's of diferend conections like 10 or more wan conections. plz reply at apolitistosgr@hotmail.com

I need to access two broadband bsnl line from lapt...

2009-05-11T01:48:00.000-07:00

I need to access two broadband bsnl line from laptop within a 2 storey building premises measuring 100ft x 120ft having wi-fi system in each floor. I need the design and recommended devices for Ground and for the 1st floor as well.

Thanks for reporting, Google Human Monitor (Beta)

2009-02-24T04:12:00.000-08:00

Thanks for reporting, Google Human Monitor (Beta)

Geez... this has been a long while and it is still...

2009-02-24T03:40:00.001-08:00

Geez... this has been a long while and it is still unreliable. What happen to Google?!

Mozy has its early days as a startup too. I haven...

2009-02-18T01:59:00.000-08:00

Mozy has its early days as a startup too. I haven't checked the latest Mozy approach though. Maybe the two services are similar. For company information and investor relations with Backblaze, please check with the Backblaze/Blackbase/Blackblades folks.

Mozy is cool too. It is a company of EMC, the lea...

2009-02-18T01:42:00.000-08:00

Mozy is cool too. It is a company of EMC, the leader of data storage. What is the company behind BackBlaze, huh?

I feel sad to see Google Notebook dying.

2009-01-15T03:44:00.000-08:00

I feel sad to see Google Notebook dying.

All of Vietnam's Government Computers To Use L...

2009-01-07T19:37:00.000-08:00

All of Vietnam's Government Computers To Use Linux, By Fiat

http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/07/1940248&from=rss

Linux rules!

pfSense and Peplink have different customer segmen...

2009-01-06T21:57:00.000-08:00

pfSense and Peplink have different customer segments. Put it this way, I use OpenOffice. I would never pay for MS Office. OOo works beautifully for me most of the time. The truth is, MS Office is still selling like hotcakes.

Now, OOo is *free* to download and use. Why are a lot of companies still not adopting it?

This blog really is obviously a shot at discrediti...

2009-01-06T21:33:00.000-08:00

This blog really is obviously a shot at discrediting or deferring people from trying/using pfsense.

The bad english is a dead give away, it looks very similar to the few emails I've passed back and fourth with peplink, which obviously gets routed to Hong Kong.

I personally like Peplink, I think the product is solid and it has not let me down as of yet. I do think they need to re-evaluate the prices on some of their product line as some of it is just hideously expensive for what you get.

Having said that, I do plan on migrating to pfsense or another free solution as I just cannot keep up with the cost/benefit ratio of peplink.

If I were peplink I'd re-evaluate and try to take a bit more of dynamic approach to improving their multi-wan gateway line.

I have a few suggestions.

@mark
"is sleeping really free"

When you...

2009-01-02T00:07:00.000-08:00

@mark
"is sleeping really free"

When you sort out how to negate the need for sleep without psychotic side effects please let us know. :)

I am a pfSense user and I have more than 1 PPTP co...

2008-12-20T15:40:00.000-08:00

I am a pfSense user and I have more than 1 PPTP connection. I actually average about 20-25 at a time. Since our shop is a Microsoft Windows 2003 / XP / Vista network, I have PPTP forwarded to our PPTP / VPN Server which is Windows 2003. The limit is removed from PPTP perspective at gthe firewall since VPN is handled by our Windows 2003 PPTP server. Obviously you can have a PPTP Linux server behind the fw to do same thing if you are so against MS or you can use OpenVPN - several ways to accomodate your requirements.

Sir, your comment that internet wifi subscribers h...

2008-12-16T22:58:00.000-08:00

Sir, your comment that internet wifi subscribers have unreliable service is total BS.

I work for a wireless ISP, and we have QOS. And a user on 5ghz can get 10mb down and 4mb up ROCK SOLID.

Its 2008, and wireless has evolved, its time to upgrade your thinking, when you think wifi,

Think @Link Wifi

www.atlinkwifi.com

while i agree with you that a router appliance is ...

2008-12-03T18:55:00.000-08:00

while i agree with you that a router appliance is more reliable, it seems that you don't have an idea how opensource software really works.

vyatta also has a router appliance. linksys also uses opensource software. a lot of those hardware/appliance that you consider reliable use opensource software.

and under GPL, those that charge for their services with regards to opensource software do not own those softwares so you have all the right to make it better without legal issues.

thousands and thousands of opensource software are available at no extra cost. and it's up to you if you want to avail paid services for such. and mind you, paid services for commercial hardware or software without warranty are usually far more expensive. and many really suck.

if you have a community behind what you're using, you share lots of experiences and possible solutions. a few hundred heads or experiences will likely prove better than a very few coders or mid level tech support (or call center!).

I spent the last day and a half trying to get pfSe...

2008-10-01T23:35:00.000-07:00

I spent the last day and a half trying to get pfSense up and running. Only to find out the GRE/PPTP limitation which only allow only one client connecting to the same PPTP server.

Going to spend time looking at pelink

I am very surprise Sam's post is having so many di...

2008-06-17T05:48:00.000-07:00

I am very surprise Sam's post is having so many discussion. I don't want to add too much to the discussion, but this is what i posted a while ago.

Another opinion on Open Source Software
http://blog.dual-wan.com/2007/09/here-is-what-walter-mossberg-famed-wsj.html

I hate people putting words in my mouth. I never ...

2008-06-17T03:32:00.000-07:00

I hate people putting words in my mouth. I never belittle the quality of pfSense or open source software in general. (The only piece of product that I wrote bad BUT FAIR thing about is the Mushroom box.)

I stated clearly that I want to remind people about total costs of owning a solution. I don't think this is any hypocritical.

Put it this way, why people are buying RHEL when there is CentOS?

Why people are buying SugarCRM (hosted service) when there is SugarCRM Opensource Edition?

I would NEVER say CentOS is lame to RHEL.

I would NEVER say SugarCRM OS is lame to SugarCRM (hosted service).

The answer is exactly that business need a total solution from software to hardware to great customer service. As simple as that. No one ever mentioned in this blog that pfSense is not good. See my original post on the quality aspect of pfSense before you criticize me. I said it would be unfair to belittle it in any way because we haven't tried it ourselves.

I agree this functionality is very misleading. It ...

2008-06-14T14:34:00.000-07:00

I agree this functionality is very misleading. It appears they're just using a HTTP proxy server that distributes multiple requests. For the most part that's pointless, and it has a lot of compatibility consequences.

Real bonding is not possible without ISP involvement. This is just an ugly, problem-prone hack.

Flame bait indeed. :) This whole blog is apparen...

2008-06-14T14:24:00.000-07:00

Flame bait indeed. :) This whole blog is apparently nothing more than a front for peplink, and is full of FUD deriding open source solutions.

There is nothing you can post to debunk what has already been posted in the comments here, open source is a lower cost solution in virtually every environment when taking every hard and soft cost into account. There are even more benefits of open source over commercial solutions that aren't listed here.

Cost isn't the only factor either. Most of the time it's going to come down to which solution can provide what the particular environment requires first, and cost is a secondary concern. It doesn't matter what something costs if it does not fit the requirements of the environment. Some functionality in pfSense isn't available in similar commercial solutions, and vice versa. In most environments either open source or commercial solutions are equally suitable, and factors like cost become the primary consideration.

I must give you kudos for approving these comments though.

Sounds a lot like the argument Microsoft uses for ...

2008-06-14T00:14:00.000-07:00

Sounds a lot like the argument Microsoft uses for Linux.

The point of time is money is not a strong point. Considering that it will take time to configure Pepwave as well as pfSense.

Is walking really free? ...
Several hours of walking a week can cost you many hours of your time. Time that can be worth hundreds.

Is sleeping really free?
Sleeping takes a great deal of your time therefore it costs you hundreds every night.

pfSense is intuitive when compared with most other firewalls with a comparable feature set.

It seems that I have created some flame bait. ;)
2008-06-13T23:04:00.000-07:00
It seems that I have created some flame bait. ;)

Of course, pfSense itself is free (as in beer and freedom), my point is the whole solution is not.

Many people perceive solutions comprising of open source software as "free solution" and they tend to forget all other tangible and intagible costs associated with it.

An open source solution is a low-cost solution at best but not free. Some components of it may be freely available - e.g. Linux, pfSense.

Gary: You're exactly right about the different markets for these products.

As an IT pro myself, I very well understand the temptation to make DIY solution work for myself or my small firm. But for the majority of companies out there, they should look at the total cost of ownership, deployment and maintenance. We work as a business/IT consultant for a living and I feel a strong sense of responsibility to remind my clients to see the whole picture and cost! before commiting on any solution. We recommend the big boys like F5, Radware too but they're just too pricey for a lot of my clients. Then we found the Peplink and they make good products and the prices are more right for small and med size companies.

Since this article has spurred so much interest, I will take the time to explain my view further in a separate post, stay tuned.

hmmm, seems as if you did not evaluate right...
2008-06-13T16:00:00.000-07:00
hmmm, seems as if you did not evaluate right...
What can a software be more free ?
it's freebsd based, opensource and everybody can use it for free... theres nothing mandatory, no support, nor else...
And it you're thinking about it not being free, please show me the site, where you can download a distro incl. the computer and the support and else ;-)

Dual-WAN.com - Your Second Opinion on Business Networking and Internet Applications

@Bevan, I highly appreciate your comments. I didn...

is it really that hard to understand that there ar...

I have used pfSense since 1.2 and have nothing but...

I need a router that can conect to multiple isp...

I need to access two broadband bsnl line from lapt...

Thanks for reporting, Google Human Monitor (Beta)

Geez... this has been a long while and it is still...

Mozy has its early days as a startup too. I haven...

Mozy is cool too. It is a company of EMC, the lea...

I feel sad to see Google Notebook dying.

All of Vietnam's Government Computers To Use L...

pfSense and Peplink have different customer segmen...

This blog really is obviously a shot at discrediti...

@mark"is sleeping really free"When you...

I am a pfSense user and I have more than 1 PPTP co...

Sir, your comment that internet wifi subscribers h...

while i agree with you that a router appliance is ...

I spent the last day and a half trying to get pfSe...

I am very surprise Sam's post is having so many di...

I hate people putting words in my mouth. I never ...

I agree this functionality is very misleading. It ...

Flame bait indeed. :) This whole blog is apparen...

Sounds a lot like the argument Microsoft uses for ...

@mark
"is sleeping really free"

When you...